Richard Dolan : Aviary の発端は Ernie Kellerstrass だ。Bill Moore や Jamie Shandera ではない。

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・名前をあげて言及はしていないが、Richard Doty の主張を否定している。

・Aviary の経緯に詳しい Grant Cameron もこのネット会議に同席しており、同意している様子。

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15:50 Aviary は Ernie Kellerstrass が発端。1985年

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i do
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want to make a correction
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the aviary was not started by bill moore
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and jamie chanderie as far as i know
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the aviary was started by a colonel
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named ernie keller strauss
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you guys correct me if you have better
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information on this so ernie kelly
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strauss was a
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a cur he was a colonel in the air force
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who worked at the foreign technology
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division
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at wright-patterson air force base and
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had apparently this is the 1986
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so it's the same year that the
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advanced theoretical physics group
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started meeting as well
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85 was their first meeting oh yeah okay
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thank you so the first aviary meeting as
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far as i understand was 1986
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and it was keller strauss in his home
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and he brought in people like robert
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collins who was an air force captain
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he did bring in uh bill moore ufo
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researcher and jamie shandery
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they were invited both of them with
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certain intelligence community
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connections
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he brought in hal put off he brought in
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john alexander
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some more of the same names uh kid green
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was part of this group um oh
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uh uh who's the senator uh the aide to
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claiborne pell uh scott jones
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yes yeah and there were there were quite
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a few others and all of these people
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were they all had security clearances
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too or
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if they didn't then they were brought in
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it like i don't know about chandra
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anymore
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but they were all brought in they all
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started talking and sharing stories
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about ufos
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and i know for a fact that keller
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strauss who was the original leader of
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this group
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like he had stories about what was going
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on in nevada alien bodies
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um probably a lot of the things that
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leonard stringfield
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the researcher back then was digging up
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you know stories of crash retrievals and
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alien bodies
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and i know keller strauss was deep into
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that as well
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and all of these guys are sharing all
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these stories basically campfire stories
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and i you know with the these types of
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guys with security clearances you have
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to assume
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they're all they're all willing to share
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but they all have to be
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careful i assume yeah like as to what
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they're sharing they don't want to get
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into trouble
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so they all kind of know the game but
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that and so more
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and chanderie who were absolutely
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talking about this on the phone
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were afraid of their phones being tapped
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and all of that
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and so when they would talk about
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members of this loose group
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they did give them bird names and either
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more or shandaray
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one of them i guess nickname said well
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it's the aviary



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