Desta Barnabe : 100% 現実で、完全に目覚めて体験していると実感 → 後に現実ではないと判明

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・直前の記事に関連。

・Desta Barnabe (退行催眠治療の施術者、重度の DMT摂取経験あり)はありとあらゆる精神世界のヨタ話を鵜呑みにするタイプだが、その彼女がタイトルの体験を語っている。

・彼女はクドクドと同じ事を冗漫に語っているが、以下では文脈に沿って簡潔に意訳。

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・1:14:30-- Desta の体験。

・完全に目覚めて明瞭に体験したと確信。100% の現実だと。それはいわゆる科学的な現実ではなかったが、OBE のような「別のリアリティ」を体験したのだ。

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・Desta Barnabe は、

  ・その体験が 100% 現実だと「実感」したから、
  ・その時、完全に目覚めていると自覚していていたから、
  ・その体験が入眠時幻覚の類とは全く違っていたから

 夢や幻覚などではなく、「別のリアリティ」だと主張している。

・彼女は頻繁かつ重度の DMT 摂取経験がある。LSD や DMT はその使用を止めた後にもフラッシュバックを生じることがある。Terence McKenna の Adamski 型 UFO 目撃体験もそれだろう…という過去記事が下。


フラッシュ・バックによる幻覚だった可能性が高い


・Terence McKenna は、彼がアマゾンで UFO を目撃した時、幻覚薬物は摂取していなかったと主張している。それが事実だとしても、はやり幻覚だったという可能性がある。

・なぜなら、幻覚薬物の使用をやめていたとしてもフラッシュ・バックによる幻覚体験は珍しくないものだから。

・Wikipedia の記述によると…

フラッシュバック
LSDの使用をやめたにも拘らず、通常の生活において突然、LSD影響下で体験された感情や知覚が数秒から数分あるいは数時間蘇ることがある。質的にはLSDによるトリップと何ら変わることはなく、視覚や時間間隔の変容、身体症状、自我境界の喪失、強い感情体験が引き起こされる。これはフラッシュバックと呼ばれる現象である。

LSD使用者の2割がフラッシュバックを経験し、その内4割がフラッシュバックに恐怖を感じ、3割は多幸感を味わう[85]。

フラッシュバックは情緒的なストレス状況や自我の働きが変容している時、疲労やマリファナ等による酩酊状態、トリップ時と似た状況に対峙したときに起きやすい[86]。

フラッシュバックの有無や頻度、作用時間は様々であるが、一般的には時間とともに量も強さも減少し、数ヶ月も経てば滅多に起きなくなる[87]。

ref: LSD (薬物) - Wikipedia - https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD_(%E8%96%AC%E7%89%A9)


ref: Terence McKenna は目撃した UFO の真偽判断を変えていた(真→偽)(+追加2) (2020-07-16)




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・言うまでもないが、この現実世界から遊離した「別のリアリティ」など存在しない。神や仏、真理、見性、真如、空、「真の実在」、老子の道…の類と同様の、ただの有り難そうなオハナシでしかない。

Anthony Peake : 癲癇が「この現実の裏側に存在するリアリティ」を認知するドアを開いた。(途中:その2) (2020-03-21)

DMT 摂取、瞑想、NDE、チャネリングで究極の答えを得たのに、気づいたら全てを忘れているのはなぜか。 (途中2) (2021-07-06)

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it's kind of like what everyone's saying
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with the 360 the super
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vision the super um clear
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scene and because i just happened to
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have one last night um
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i think that it's it's super connected
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because
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i you can be 100 awake you're 100 sure
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you're awake you're sitting up in bed
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you're looking around
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and you're seeing something that is not
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what you you know what is not in this
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reality kind of thing right so whether
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it's like a bean
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and and i always wonder that about um
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other people getting abducted or
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experiences that they're seeing
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is because i see so many of these but
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because i'm sure that i'm having these
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because i've had so many of these
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hypnagogic
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experiences i'm sure that when i wake up
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kind of thing like the next day
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not when i'm doing it when i'm doing it
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because i am awake i'm sure i'm awake
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i'm sitting up in bed and you know you
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know i'm so sure that it's
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real what's happening but i do also know
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from being in bed with someone else and
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saying oh my god there's three there's
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people in the yard
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because i saw three greys in the yard
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one time and i was like oh my god
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there's people in the yard and
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my partner got up and ran to the door
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and was going crazy thinking there was
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people in the yard and then i and then
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as i was slowly waking up and he was
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like where are they where are they
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outside i was thinking oh [ __ ] this is
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like i said oh
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i think that i was just and he was so
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mad because he's like oh you're just
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having one of your things again
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but i was so 100 sure i woke up i was
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sitting at the edge of my bed looking
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out my window there was three
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beans in the yard that were all pointing
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in the same direction
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and um and i was awake i was awake and
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talking talking to my partner woke him
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up kind of thing and made him go outside
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so i was so sure i was seeing it and in
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that state you're always so sure you're
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seeing it so
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i've always wondered if the people
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getting pulled out of their body the
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abduction state whatever is that is that
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they maybe aren't so they haven't had
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like hundreds or thousands of these
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hypnagogic or pompic
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experiences so maybe that's what they're
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experiencing which is
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still a true state and you're still
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seeing you're just seeing into
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i don't know why like you know you're
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seen into some other reality or you have
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more sight or whatever or i don't know
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what what the explanation really is but
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um
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but i think that but same without a body
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because i feel the same when i'm
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doing the hypnagogic thing that i
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i feel the same as when i was out of
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body it feels the same like you know
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grant and everyone is saying like you
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have a 360 you're so sure you're awake
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you're so sure it's true
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you're so sure the clarity of what
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you're seeing is reality that when it
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wears off and when you actually you know
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come to or however you want to say it
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you're like oh it's so weird that
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because i was so sure that that was
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real i was so sure i was seeing this and
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uh you're thinking you're sitting up
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you're sometimes talking to another
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person you're so awake and aware but of
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course the scientific
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you know explanation or whatever is just
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that you're still dreaming but it never
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feels like
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you're i'm so sure i've happened it's
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happened to me
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hundreds if not thousands of times i
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know that i'm not dreaming i know what a
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dream is it's
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such a different experience that it
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makes me wonder if that's connected to
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the um out-of-body experience as well as
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the abduction experience or something
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that's happening in the middle of the
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night because you're just
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in this you know fade-a-state kind of
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thing playing with different realities
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and in
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possibly two different states of
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awareness you know or in the trance-like
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state at least which is
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allowing you to be able to perceive a
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different whatever
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dimension or reality or however you want
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to say it



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